Archive | May, 2012

A man and his boat

30 May

Nothing should come between a man and his boat.  I thought about this a lot lately and it had bothered me.  My beloved Boston Whaler Outrage with the Honda 130 four stroke on the back sat in my backyard for weeks while I stressed about what to do about it.  It had ran strong all summer last year but this year started leaning out sporadically.  I would be cruising and all of a sudden the engine would begin hesitating and I’d immediately have to throttle down before it stalled.  I changed every single hose, filter etc that I could do on my own and then finally had to take it into the dealership.

The mechanic ran a few tests and it looked like I might have a cracked block, the engine was failing the leak down compression test. This was going to be very bad news because a new engine was going to run me 10k and my wife wasn’t too happy about that.  We tried a few things and then I took it back to the mechanic again, he made a few changes and then I took it for a test run, the boat ran fine for five minutes and then the problems came back again.  On pretty much every type of engine the majority of the problems come down to fuel or spark.  I knew I was getting spark so I did a few tests on the water and figured that the motor wasn’t getting fuel.  I talked to some of the techs at, Mike is the honda guru on that site and we thought it seemed like there was a problem with the low pressure fuel pump so I ordered one.  When the new pump came in I swapped it out and immediately noticed that the old pump had some rust on the plunger part and that it wasn’t moving correctly.  With the new pump installed I was ready for a sea trial.

After trying vacuum tests, pressure tests, changing parts it turned out that the low pressure pump was faulty.  This is the oem one and is held on by two bolts, not a big deal except that lower bolt is a bitch to get to

After backing down my truck on the launch ramp I climbed aboard, gave the fuel bulb a few pumps and clicked the key on.  C-level roared to life, I gingerly backed her down the trailer and tied her to the dock and ran back and parked the truck.  As I gingerly increased the throttle I kept an eye out on the tach, the needle kept climbing and in no time I was on plane.  The boat pushed forward and I was gliding across the water with the wind pushing my hat back and a big smile on my face.  I had forgotten how much pleasure this boat gave me and I leaned back on my seat with satisfaction.  I passed up common dolphins, pelicans dive bombing bait with some terns and dopey sea lions resting on the surface.  All the time C-level never hesitated and twenty or so miles later I reached one of my favorite spots.

I suited up and grabbed one of my spearguns and dropped over and loaded up the bands.  There was a bit of bait in the water and I saw schools of opaleye crushing around.  The wind had stirred up the water quite a bit and the visibility was pretty bad, still I could see at least 12 feet or so.  As I was coming up from the bottom I was surprised that above me was a 30 lb white seabass gliding by, it was so close I could see the individual scales and long line along it’s vent.  It was so close in fact that I could not swing the gun without hitting it, as I tried to gently turn it the fish sensed my presence and boomed away.  I rose to the surface and took in some air, at the least I knew there were fish around!  I made a few more drops and maybe five minutes later came across two sitting in the kelp, the bigger of the two began to turn and as the second fish turned I squeezed the trigger and sent the 5/16″ shaft hurtling through it.  The fish ran a bit and then tied up in the shallow water, I followed my bright floatline and found it and dispatched it.  The fish now hung from my belt and I made my way back to my boat.

I climbed back in and put the fish in my fish bag with two jugs of solid ice.  What a day!  The fish was small, maybe 15 or 18 pounds but it would make a fine dinner and my friends are always glad to get some fresh fish.  I pulled the anchor and clicked the key, again the motor fired up without a hitch and in a few moments I was pounding the swell on the way back to the docks.  The sun was warm, my boat was humming, and I had a nice fish in the bag, it was turning out to be quite a day!  I think the most satisfying part was that I had saved myself thousands of dollars by chatting with friends and wrenching on my own motor, there’s a lot of satisfaction in that even though I had spent hours chasing that gremlin.   I still have the leak down compression problem to fix but at the least the boat is running strong.   I lovingly ran my hands over the stainless steering wheel and throttle while grinning ear to ear.  Man did I miss that boat!

Fish beware, C-level has risen from the ashes and is thirsty for blood…

Another C-level causalty

An older pix of C-Level circa 2010


Old Boat Woes: Replacing a low pressure fuel pump on a Honda BF130

25 May
This really isn’t a do it yourself but maybe it might help some others troubleshoot engine problems.Background. My boat/engine was bought used, it had a 2001 honda bf130 four stroke on a 86 (I think) boston whaler outrage hull. The problem is when it is under load it will begin to lean out and will stall. There are no problem if I take it out of gear and increase the revs to 4k rpm, it only happens when it is under load and then it cuts out. There are no sounding alarms when this happens.

In no particular order I had recently replaced the following hoping to remedy the problem:
fuel fill/vent hose
feed hoses from gas tank to water separator
put new water separator filter in it and lubed o rings.
replaced primer bulb with johnsons bulb
replaced low and high pressure fuel filters inside the engine
replaced vapor separator filter
Spark plugs

The bulb will get very firm when I pump it (johnson bulb) but when the engine begins to stall if we pump the bulb it will be okay for a few minutes. Sometimes the engine will correct itself and will run fine for 15 minutes and then might need a few pumps. Later on the engine got so bad that I had to pump the bulb every 2 minutes. I was fairly certain at that time I had a fuel flow problem.

I have run a clear piece of tubing from the external fuel/water separator and can see air coming out a bit where it leaves the filter. When I pump it hard the air goes through the bulb and disappears, but when the engine is running under load it does not appear to have any air going through the line. I was told later on this was normal.

I had tried to run a separate portable tank with a separate bulb, the engine still leaned out. I did a cylinder drop test where I removed each spark plug wire to see how the engine reacted. The engine rpms dropped and the engine shook on each one about the same on each plug, this is normal for the engine.

I connected the fuel/vacuum gauge before the low pressure fuel pump and at idle there was hardly any pressure at all, the only way I could get any positive pressure of like five was to squeeze the fuel bulb. I pinched the hose before the gauge and fuel pump and the pump could not generate any inches of pressure at idle, even after fifteen or so seconds. I hooked up the fuel/vacuum gauge right before the vst and got the same kinds of readings.

I drained the VST (vapor separator tank) and the gas inside looked normal (no gunk).

About that time I gave up and I took the boat/engine down to the dealers and they first did a compression test, compression was okay at 200, 190, 200, 210. However the leak down compression test failed 35-40 percent on cylinders 2 & 3. The honda service bulletin stated that this could possibly be caused by cylinder head cracks and when I read the symptoms it was pretty much what I had experienced. Unfortunately the engine was out of warranty and the powerhead had already been replaced under warranty with the previous owner.

The dealer ran a few other tests and was leaning towards a cracked block. He did find that the cam belt was off two tooth marks and corrected it, I took it for another sea trial. The engine ran fine for about five minutes and then began to lean out. I put it in neutral for a bit and then into gear, the motor could not get to 2k rpm under load without leaning out. I shut off the motor, let it sit, started it and heard the fuel pump but the boat would not get to 2k without leaning out again. I pumped the bulb half way 8 times, the boat ran to 4k rpms without any problems for 1 minute 45 seconds and then leaned out. I did the whole thing again, letting it sit, etc, it would not pass 2k rpm unless I pumped the fuel bulb.

I ran several test runs and every time the boat would run fine for 90 seconds to 2 minutes before leaning out and then the only way I could get it running would be to pump that bulb 8 or more times in which case the motor would always run 90 seconds to 2 minutes, I could pretty much set my watch by it.

Right then I was sure that although I knew I had a leak in the engine that the main problem was due to a fuel feed problem. I talked with a lot of guys on and one of the techs said that it sure sounded like a low pressure fuel pump problem (the low pressure pump is mechanical and feeds the high pressure pump which in turn feeds the vst and injectors). I talked with my mechanic and although my engine had passed several fuel pressure tests at the shop I told him that the engine would not fail until I ran the engine 5 minutes under load. He agreed the fuel pump might be a problem and ordered me a new low pressure pump.

On the honda bf130 there are only 2 bolts which hold the low pressure pump on. The top 12mm bolt comes right off with a socket wrench. The lower one is a bitch and should be removed by removing the lower cowling (it is a bitch to remove that and would take me at least an hour, lots of bolts and lots of things connected to it). Instead I used a tiny 12mm open ended wrench and after a lot of swearing was able to remove the bolt.

The old pump had some rust on the plunger, it was also very difficult to press the plunger inwards. The new pump had a easier plunger to push in. I used a new oring and swapped the entire assembly.

Took the boat out on a sea trial and everything ran perfectly. I could no longer make the engine lean out, I ran it for 30 minutes under varying conditions and it never leaned out. I will have to live with the 3mpg due to the leak in the block but it’s still better than dropping 10k on a new motor.

I finally had a chance to take apart the old low pressure pump, there are three springs that work the piston/plunger thing. Two of the springs had broken in several pieces, there was also a bit of corrosion on all of the springs.  After seeing the broken pieces I was relieved I had finally tracked down that gremlin!